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Justin's avatar

It's following the Chinese Debt Trap model, and Trudeau loves the way China does things.

China loans money at high rates to desperate countries with their natural resources, ports, airports, infrastructure, etc. as collateral. Then China helps to make sure that the countries are unable to pay their debts back and take over the collateral. See "Belt and Road Initiative". Joshua Philipp is an expert at all this.

Trudeau's the Newsom of the North, and Newsom tried to drain all the water out of the dams in California (3-5 years worth in one winter), and then cutoff farmers from having water during the resulting years' droughts.

Guess who is waiting in the wings to scoop up prime farmland on the cheap? Chinese and globalist interests.

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Allan's avatar

Sounds just like what the good old USA has been doing to the world since it took over from the good old UK! And the UK did exactly what you describe to China. UK paid in opium for what it took from China. Seems like it’s still the preferred way of doing business. The UN is seizing control of all land though Land Rights and Climate Control.

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Gary F's avatar

The difference is that it is no longer Nation States in control.

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Beedledee Beedledum's avatar

"the more things change, the more they stay the same." Greed by any name is still greed.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

I recommend that you read "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man" by John Perkins.

The IMF was set up as a loan sharking operation to put poor countries into US dollar debt with the condition that they privatize their state owned assets, and subject their workforce to slave labor wages.

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Marc Johnson's avatar

[ re: Perkins ]

My thoughts exactly.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs.” – Thomas Jefferson in the debate over the Re-charter of the Bank Bill (1809)

“I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.” –Thomas Jefferson

“… The modern theory of the perpetuation of debt has drenched the earth with blood, and crushed its inhabitants under burdens ever accumulating.” -Thomas Jefferson

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Marc Johnson's avatar

…. And when the banks issue CBDC with an obvious push towards End of Cash….

Well, this is the new high tech overlay to TJeff’s comments.

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Justin's avatar

And adopt destructive cultural practices (sexualizing children in education, adopting gay marriage, etc)

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Bill Gates is already buying up US farmland.

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Dennis's avatar

Forget it Jake, it's Chinatown

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DrugDiscovery's avatar

"Canada" is gone. It's over. Canada is like a cruise which you are taking with some ten best friends. You do not need to care about the other 2500 people on board; you dine with your 10 friends, you hang out by the pool with your 10 friends, you drink with your 10 friends and even go to a few plays and concerts in the cruise. But the other 2500 folks don't concern you. That's Canada. And I saw that coming in 1993...

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DrugDiscovery's avatar

One year after I landed in Canada as an immigrant. It took me one year among my newly adopted folks to grasp that "multiculturalism" (remember that?) was a Trojan for cultural atomization: "divide and conquer". I'm still here, but planning to flee,. if time allows me.

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Vivian's avatar

Yes I remember multiculturalism. I see it now but to naive to see it then. Where will you go?

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DrugDiscovery's avatar

Funny you ask. I spent part of my afternoon (I'm gratefully on vacation right now) looking for some acreage of land to buy at a price I can afford. So, no idea. I have been stirring people to look into, of all places!, El Salvador. The current government seems to have cleaned the streets up and the adoption of Bitcoin as legal tender seems promising. But what do I know? I may be sending people to another Canada...

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Vivian's avatar

My sister and I were talking about this tonight. We are in different provinces and cannot believe the Canada we helped create in our collective stupor. Just going along with it all until you don't. I am grateful we are both awake now. I have heard good things about El Salvador and every place has its pros and cons, but Canada is unrecognizable to me and I was born here.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The primary function of money is to put people to work to make products for sale and build infrastructure, not to make bankers rich by allowing them to create money out of thin air as debt.

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Marc Johnson's avatar

Gee whiz….

Canada, (eh) used to be a freedom DESTINATION (ref: Vietnam)

Where, pray tell, would you escape TO?

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Marty Ellenbecker's avatar

I'm not betting on feet going down, fists going up or anything resembling belligerence against the monsters we face.

We've endured massive fraud, economic chaos, larceny, reckless homicide, manslaughter and mindslaughter through Covid "remedies". The assault even marches through the womb.

Saints would riot if they'd been through what we've been through!

The last 2 uprisings of consequence in the US were over racism and an election. Important, but not equivalent.

Something's been taken from us. I've never investigated chemtrails but something has been done to us to cause our unprecedented, unacceptable complacency. I don't know if we've ingested something through food, air, water, or cosmetics. I don't know if subliminal suggestions have been used.

Unless this stuff "wears off", we should concentrate on taking names and leave kicking asses to hired contractors, surviving and bitter loved ones, and/or those of us who receive remedial treatment or become self-cured of whatever we've been subjected to.

It would be nice if we could rustle up a battalion of brain/psych/med experts of Dr. Rose and her cohorts' caliber and dedication to work on this.

If anyone sees Institutional Justice show up for work, let the rest of us know ASAP!

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Barnes Moore's avatar

One problem is that far too many of us are fat, dumb, and happy so are unwilling to stick our necks out - like Jessica is doing - to make a difference. I live in a nice little bubble called Amelia Island, FL. It is a wonderful place that is being invaded by brain dead liberals. My conservative friends complain about our side doing nothing, but that's all they do - complain. Too few are willing to take the time and energy to get involved in any meaningful way. Life is too comfortable for them as it is, until it is not. One of many fears is that when the collapse happens, it will happen so quickly that there will be no time to prepare or react.

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DefCon-Dan's avatar

I also live in FL, and see the brain dead liberal yankees contaminating our State.

They always bring their liberal failed baggage with them to ruin any place they go as they ruined the places they left. We can't prevent them from moving here, but we can make them feel so unwelcome that they might leave. Cut them no slack, with 0 tolerance for their ugly behavior and failed liberal ideology.

You are right that complacency and lack of preparation will not end well.

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Marc Johnson's avatar

Amen, brother.

We are conservative refugees who escaped from NYS to TN. Whenever our local version of your transplant libs try something [ ex: flag rules, sign rules, actual building-level Gun control ] , OUR side shows up in overwhelming numbers.

Our side wins.

Make 1984 fiction again !

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

I imagine that Aldous Huxley's "Brave New World" would be preferable.

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Marty Ellenbecker's avatar

Not a good strategy? Neither is coddling evil.

Unless and until some better, effective ACTION comes along, it's the ONLY strategy that can open any doors to justice and remedies without more innocent casualties.

I'm sick of watching the innocent suffer and die while the guilty are not even inconvenienced. They should be diaper-wearing afraid of us! Until they are, nothing will change.

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DefCon-Dan's avatar

I'm with you Marty. The psychopaths have taken control of governments as they will always do, and here is how to deal with them like any other tyrant bully.

When their military recruitment and the value of their fake money drops to 0 soon, they lose. Meanwhile resistance in every way possible speeds that along.

https://dissidentvoice.org/2008/05/beware-the-psychopath-my-son/

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

“The Pentagon did not want to say, did not want to put on the product, this is a Pentagon made Defense Department made product. They essentially paid the pharmaceutical companies for their brand name so people would think they were getting something from Pfizer Moderna.”

– Robert Kennedy Jr

“There are no best manufacturing processes. And so we don't know what the ingredients are. We don't know how it was manufactured. We don't know where a lot of these were manufactured, and we just know nothing about these products, and nobody is actually looking at them.”

- Sasha Latypova

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Kathy M.'s avatar

It is not Trudeau that is driving the banks. Further study on BlackRock . . . find this post: BlackRock Driving Business Into The Arms of The New World Order.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

BlackRock is a private corporation, who invest other peoples' money and pension funds in the US stock market and make a huge profit while doing so, as long as stock prices keep going up. It is actually a Ponzi Scheme that would collapse like a house of cards, if all their holdings of corporate shares were sold off at the same time.

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DefCon-Dan's avatar

Don't forget Vanguard and State Street too, but check this out.

BTW, Blackstone was reincarnated as BlackRock so there are many money trails to follow there too as with all of those shell corps.

Always follow the money trails for the real story!

https://stopworldcontrol.com/monopoly/

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Ryan Oreily's avatar

Seem like it worked exactly as planned ... by WEF

As an American tiny business owner, although our administration wasn’t as big of a WEF puppet, the PPP didn’t reach us. IOW, US bypassed the WEF, and directly gave our money to the banks and the wealthy. Fear not Canadians, we’re just as fucked.

At least our two peoples still have our guns... we can still feed our families

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Bob Schubring's avatar

This is not new. Keynes' Modern Monetary Theory held that Debts=Money.

Since that defies the Common Sense test, it should have been disbelieved immediately. Instead, universities corrupted themselves teaching this falsehood in economics courses.

As a result, there is vast complacency amongst the highly educated, whilst truckers, welders, farmers and other plain-spoken folk perceive danger but are bullied into silence by university grads who tell the nightly news. We have, in short, a credibility problem amongst the self-described "educated", which manifests in their demands for cultlike belief in their ideas, and ostracism of all folks with an education who think for ourselves, rather than believe as we are commanded.

A generation ago Ravi Batra observed the collapse of the Soviet Union and predicted, "To be followed by the West". He was only 30 years early with his prediction.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The US money supply was privatized in 1913 with the passage of the Federal Reserve Act.

Despite warnings, Woodrow Wilson signed the 1913 Federal Reserve Act. A few years later he wrote: “I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated Governments in the civilized world no longer a Government by free opinion, no longer a Government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a Government by the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men.” -Woodrow Wilson

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Bob Schubring's avatar

And then the poor bastard had a stroke. Considering that Wilson promised Solid South Democrats federal support for racial segregation, segregating the Army, Navy, Post Office, and federal courts in Segregationist states, then hosted the world premiere of the Ku Klux Klan epic, "Birth of a Nation" in the White House , ENTIRELY to buy enough votes in Congress to pass the Federal Reserve Act and the Income Tax, it's not surprising that he spent his final years feeling betrayed.

I do find humorous Nikola Tesla's revenge on JP Morgan. Tesla's mentor Westinghouse took a beating from Morgan's bank. Tesla repeated his Colorado Springs experiment on Ionosphere self-resonance, at Morgan's great expense, building an oversized version of the unit that self-destroyed in Colo Spgs knocking out the city's power supply until generators could be dragged up Pike's Peak. So thick was Morgan that he believed Tesla's giant NYC-to-Paris radiotelegraph, which emitted enough radiation to make light bulbs glow when disconnected, would gain a positive public reception as free light. If each time the telegrapher tapped out a dit or a dah, the house lights flickered on, it would have been a huge annoyance to folks trying to sleep in the dark. When Wardenclyffe Tower went operational and immediately melted down it's huge coal-fired generators, engineers around the world learned to operate electric power grids at any frequency that was not 24 hertz. Morgan sought to sue somebody for his own failure of due diligence but was unsuccessful...and came away looking like a moron.

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Jonathan Reece's avatar

The apathy induced by fluoride can't help.

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Kathy M.'s avatar

Fluoride is always in the back of my mind. I mentioned it in a town newsletter once and got pounced on by those getting paid to put it in the water system.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Sodium fluoride is very similar to sodium chloride with regard to its chemical properties and therefore dissolved in water it cannot possibly be poisonous in low concentrations. It is put into the water supply instead of chlorine gas that tastes awful, but still kills germs. It is also supposed to prevent tooth decay.

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Steve's avatar

Definitely pre-planned. The government hates small business people. The Turd must go if Canada is to survive. He fits the mold of Bonhoeffer's famous essay on stupidity. Read this and tell me this does not describe 90% of the "leaders" today:

https://southsidemessenger.com/bonhoeffer-on-stupidity-entire-quote/

Yes, they are, by definition, very stupid people. Stupid enough to kill themselves.

Peace.

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redwolf's avatar

That is what happens when People elect gangsters, murderers, and liars. It's not as if they give a shit about us. It never has.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Just because you can vote does not mean that you live in a democracy.

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Alan Richards's avatar

Presumably the way out is for business owners to do a pre-pack administration, leave the debts behind and start again. There will be an industry of advisers selling such solutions.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

The economist Dr Michael Hudson thinks along similar lines:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2023/07/07/should-there-be-a-supreme-court-its-role-has-always-been-anti-democratic/

The authors of America’s Constitution of 1776 created the Supreme Court to provide a check on the danger that political evolution might lead Congress to pass laws threatening oligarchic rule.

The U.S. political system has become distorted by the power given to the Supreme Court enabling it to block reforms that the majority of Americans are reported to support. The problem is not only the Supreme Court, to be sure. Most voters oppose wars, support public healthcare for all and higher taxes on the wealthy. But Congress, itself captured by the oligarch donor class, routinely raises military spending, privatizes healthcare in the hands of predatory monopolies and cuts taxes for the financial rent-seeking class while pretending that spending money on government social programs would force taxes to rise for wage-earners.

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Craig Campbell's avatar

big mistake for any government to micro-manage health care or businesses. even the health experts and scientists in this case were either confounded or corrupt, in either case not effective at resolving the issues, so how can governments solve problems by just throwing things together in a hurry. that's over reaching by people who aren't experts in the fields they are managing. the financial and health needs of individuals and businesses vary widely and the best solution is always for governments to stand aside. that way a variety of solutions are developed by mostly experienced individuals with boots on the ground and workable solutions evolve quickly. there was a tremendous amount of fraud in the assistance programs in the u.s. and i expect that is found in the canadian programs as much. probably not wise to go into business unless you have really deep pockets. also discriminatory tht some businesses were forced to close and not others. in New jersey liquor stores were not forced to close and i don't see that food is any less necessary than alcohol.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Medicare for the over 65s is a US government universal health insurance policy. that controls the price of reimbursements to private doctors and hospitals for any given medical procedure with a copay of 20% and a monthly premium of $164 that works quite well compared with the private health insurers charges and huge co pays.

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Craig Campbell's avatar

I know what medicare is frank, since I signed up for it when i turned 65, i get a booklet every year and i know how to read. i think this discussion is about covid mandates, depopulation, the fraudulent World Health Organization, Bill Gates, corruption and fraud in U.S. Government regulatory agencies, not pricing models. It appears that even "esteemed" institutions were preventing people from getting basic medical treatment so they could collect healthy financial incentives influenced by fraudulent pharmaceutical companies. and yes i know all about who blackrock is too.

https://rumble.com/vmyx1n-monopoly-who-owns-the-world-documentary-by-tim-gielen.html

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Medicare for All free at the point of delivery for ALL all US citizens would be a vast improvement over Obamacare in my view.

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Craig Campbell's avatar

Frank, if you've seen my other comments you know i believe that rothschilds and affiliated central bankers are trying to take over the world and depopulate the planet using medical dictatorship (WHO), central bank digital currency, health and id passes (social credit controls). don't let anyone tell you this isn't true. they want to depopulate the planet by 80% so why do you anticipate free health benefts. these are the same corporate greed complex that brought you first and 3nd world war, korean war, cold war, atomic testing, glyphosate, fluoridated water, processed foods, vietnam war, afghanistan war, iraq war, 911, libya war and ukraine. believe they're not the people you want to trust your health to. the government would prefer to have you dead.

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Frank Wolstencroft's avatar

Yes, I fully understand the desires of the psychopaths at the WEF. They are in fact a return to medieval serfdom. When I confront people with these plans they either think it is a joke, or respond by saying "It's always been this way' and "If you don't like America, why don't you leave?"

They have no idea what far better future alternatives there are for humanity, since they have been brainwashed by the main stream media to believe that socialism is evil.

https://monthlyreview.org/2009/05/01/why-socialism/

Einstein asserts that a planned economy that adjusts to production would guarantee a livelihood to every member of society: In such an economy, the means of production are owned by society itself and are utilized in a planned fashion.

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Craig Campbell's avatar

Frank,

I agree Einstein doesn't need a sociology degree to express an opinion about sociology.

However, If I'm understanding his statements correctly, they are just speculation prefacing the introduction of a new journal and I don't find any specific workable solutions.

First he speculates that a supranational organization is necessary to prevent another war. However we can easily see that the war in Ukraine was caused by NATO, which is supposed to be a supranational defensive organization and the EU walking offensive nuclear weapons and biological weapons laboratories right up to Russia's boarders and supporting offensive Ukrainian internal military aggression against Russian minorities in Ukraine in defiance of Russia's pronouncement that such actions are an an existential threat to Russia and could trigger a nuclear counteroffense. Agressive actions by NATO also happened in Yugoslovia, Iraq, Libya and Afganistan to name just a few. The supranational organizations are all controlled by finance monopolists and represent the interests of private capital in this case the "western" money monoplies, which own collectively the majority of the world's assets and that is always the case in the instance of "supranational" entities, they exist to deprive nations of their sovereignity for the benefit of supranational capitalists.

I agree that humans are dependent on societies and are molded by societies, but where do you find the perfect society to mold perfect individuals. They don't exist because societies are ultimately formed of individuals with unequal talents and varying selfish interests.

Einstein speculates that human behavior is more elevated than ants and bees, but if you study human endeavors over long periods of history it appears that there are recurring patterns of behavior, for example the growth, stabilization and decadence of societies, which suggests that humans, too are only capable of a limited repertoire of behaviors and only imperfectly accumulate behavioral instincts based on past experience. Because societies consist of individuals with various degrees of talent and opportunity, they generally evolve into pyramidal, hierarchical structures with the most aggressive, resourceful individuals at the top and the balance dispersed in various rankings below. This is something you can't legislate out of existence. So perhaps the best we can envision is some form of enlightened despotism by a group of wealthy and benificent individuals rather than the capital oriented ignorant despotism of the current, incompetent caligula like degnerates.

Einstein ends with the question "how is it possible in view of the far reaching centralization of political and economic power, to prevent bureaucracy from becoming all-powerful and overweening. Interestingly, he never answers the question.

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Paul Black's avatar

UnTrudeau going for full demolition Great Reset

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GoldExperience's avatar

The 1980' s farming crisis was in large part caused by drought flowed by government bailout loans, followed by inflation, insane interest rates and massive loss of farms, many intergenerational. The loss goes beyond the businesses. It weakens the country as a whole. Similar problems seen during lockdowns will occur, including drug use, depression, and, sadly, massive suicides.

The economy will be F*(k€D since there will be less goods giving value to our dollar. And having it happen in many countries around the world means a global catastrophe. We are headed for dark times. Covid was just a blip compared to what comes next . Hope I am wrong.

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Beedledee Beedledum's avatar

the economy is already f*cked. Things have doubled and tripled in price and this is only the beginning. I live in a rural place; the thefts have already begun - people stealing from roadside farm stands, your beater jalopy, they don't care who they hurt.

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Beedledee Beedledum's avatar

For those planning to flee Canada or US or wherever else... where do you think you can flee to that will not become what Canada has become and the US has been for... centuries? You may gain a few years at best. I'm not in the ideal place in the US - I'm poor so have no options to leave the country as an unvaxed. I'll stand and fight right here where I am. No use running away and bringing all the problems our cultures helped create, into some other country, and bring them down! The NWO oligarchs and plutocrats don't recognize sovereign nations or borders when it comes to grabbing land, resources, and assets. There is no safety except in knowing it's us against a small number of them - not us against us. "Politics" is nursery school level theater- a diversion to keep us useless eaters infighting - so far successful and they fear us figuring that out and coming together most of all.

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DefCon-Dan's avatar

As other good people of true character have said, This is the hill we will die on.

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Kathy M.'s avatar

I'm with you on on your "where can I flee to" post. It is a real piece of wisdom in a paragraph. My life preserver has been contemplation of the spiritual side of life and the indestructibility of the spirit and the hope it offers. I won't mess up your post with more odds-and-ends!

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Victor's avatar

That was the governments plan and here we go.

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