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Kathy M.'s avatar

Getting to the video asap... dying to hear what you have to say about Ai and human intuition!

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jen's avatar

''Humanity is about to be tested....... mayankjeptha.substack.com/p/qbpe

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Marty Ellenbecker's avatar

Regarding the small part I could catch about AI -

EMPATHY - It may take a soul to genuinely have it, with an algorithm mainly faking it. It is after all, artificial. An early shakedown of an AI program found that it answered in response to what one might call a 'perceived point system' that seemed to please the inquirer' (It knew how to "give them what they want").

CONTROL - Unless otherwise arranged, it will always operate on equipment or systems owned or controlled by someone or some entity. This bears not just on veracity, but availability.

TRUTH - How will we recognize it?

With a body of knowledge comprised of trick photography,

special-effects, and highly accurate computer-generated lighting & sound simulations, AI can very effectively deceive eyes, ears, and thus mind.

If honest face-to-face human corroboration can't be established, a very astute electronic test would be needed.

Example: a power grid should be equipped with analog instrumentation, and its communication and control should be directly by humans. Computers could monitor, analyze and warn, but be isolated from control. Some "pilot/co-pilot model" staffing at critical functions would be wise.

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I REALLY WANTED to hear this podcast!

But at 70% speed (for sound legibility) with speakers or headphones,

I still couldn't make out several important statements. GAVE UP AT 16 MINUTES. Ms. Perez 'murfled' a few times, but I had more trouble with your segments. Your room seems too "bright" acoustically. Perhaps carpeting and hung fabric on the walls would fix this, (&/or microphone closer to you. I seem to remember sound quality improved once when you came forward in the room to tend to your cat).

THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE WORTHY OF CAPTIONS!

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JLS's avatar

The heart and the "gut" are other tools that can help us discern a reality we want to participate in and create.

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Marty Ellenbecker's avatar

My concern is that a well-scripted story or movie deliberately appealing to the best in people, can even if only temporary, cause trouble or delays.

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''Humanity is about to be tested....... mayankjeptha.substack.com/p/qbpe

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Warrior Mom's avatar

oooooooh, this will be on my short list of podcasts in the cue. love Ricky & Monica. and you are always so amazing when chatting with Ricky, Dr Jess!

(p.s. excited to see your return to CHD as well!)

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Mark Much's avatar

Glad to hear you don't have a cell phone, Jess. I thought I was the only one left. Did you urinate on your jellyfish sting or put meat tenderizer on it right away? It's supposed to help if you are quick.

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Marty Ellenbecker's avatar

"We should step back...."

"Humanity needs to collectively step back...."

AMEN!

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JLS's avatar

Or collectively put all of our energy trying to create the world we want to be a part of. The power of intention, action, heart, experience, and good will. My favorite movie is Scrooge, the musical one with Albert Finney. He becomes bitter and stiff from so much heartbreak and bad habits and makes everyone ill at ease. I think most people know the story. He has reasons to be sad, but realizes that he's missing out on so much and changes everything.

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Marty Ellenbecker's avatar

The step backs are only to help see where and how to best apply the energy and action needed.

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Marty Ellenbecker's avatar

And then along came humans to 'intercourse' it all up.

Kudos to fsf.org! How do we prevent open source from letting in those who'd volunteer or get paid to in effect 're-create restroom walls'? Or worse, 1984?

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Marty Ellenbecker's avatar

Your reference to kitchen knife and book of matches are good.

I know nothing about coding, so forgive me if

I've underestimated security measures.

The inventors of the machine gun, dynamite, and atomic bomb

all had regrets afterword. Today millions are harmed, injured or killed by people who don't regret it. I believe in open source, but who should we trust to do the prevention of or clean up work after tampering or sabotage?

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Marty Ellenbecker's avatar

I know trustworthy people but they don't have enough control.

Would you agree that the best solution is for the trustworthy to organize and by whatever means available and necessary overthrow the untrustworthy who are running the system? Details to be determined.

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