"It is becoming ever more obvious that it is not famine, not earthquakes, not microbes, not cancer but man himself who is man's greatest danger to man, for the simple reason that there is no adequate protection against psychic epidemics which are infinitely more devastating than the worst of natural catastrophes." C G Jung
It's likely there are elements of 'mass formation' within the anti-globalist camp and, as time goes on and a 'movement' comes together, the possibility increases, but there were also many who were independently questioning right from the get go.
I would frame this differently. Try this idea for size ... Every living system is essentially self-maintaining, self-correcting and self-referential - a feedback loop (which is essentially toroidal in form). As holobionts, or ecosystems within ecosystems, we inhabit multiple multidimensional ecosystems, both material and conceptual, at multiple levels of existence. Any established system has a certain force and momentum which is increasingly capable of entraining processes - and hence their material manifestations and temporal interconnectivity (ie. 'events') - to that system once the system becomes established, stable and durable.
The inhabiting of conceptual feedback loops is mostly a given (ie. 'reality' is ultimately an illusion and objectivity fails), but for as long as we remain conscious of the fact that that's what we're doing, we persist in evaluating competing concepts on a more-or-less equal footing and, crucially, we have a means to access information from higher order systems, we remain more capable of critical and 'realistic' assessment which hasn't been 'captured' by any particular 'reality matrix'. At least at that level of reality ...
In other words, the way 'out' is 'in', but as living systems on this planet, we have to inhabit some sort of 'reality matrix'. So best we choose wisely! Personally, I choose Life!
"If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"
Well written. I wonder if the last 2.5 years took away the ability of people to maintain, evaluate and correct. When you have to oppose something for a long time you go into a ‘counter’ mode. This could prove to be the correct mode. Everyone paints their opponents as devils and being on the opposite side of something does not balance the cosmic scales.
For sure, we all contribute to the co-creation of said matrixces (whatever is plural for 'matrix is,) and it is critical that we are aware of this and that we 'keep our spirits up' so that we are intending toward a future we want to actually participate in. (Not the WEF/depopulation furture obviously long-range-coordinated by supra-national entities that must not fully grasp the fundamental innate power of even a singular human being.)
This has been the whole crux for me, personally. Of course 'Safe Effectives' are not typically dealing (consciously on any level) w the horrors of grasping the current evidentiary debasement of humanity, nor all the pending financial consequences of the participant corruption/capture - which thus only furthers said 'Safe Effectives' psychological/moral inability and unwillingness to question really anything - much less explore an accessible breadth of hardcore evidence (like jabbinated community members dying/being ill, forced-released FDA documents, or whistle-blower military docs, to name a few) contrasting multi-million-dollar-mainstream-platform narratives, entrenched narratives that had an advantage over truths through very early-on propagandized concepts ( like "anti-vaxer" or "Relligous Right"/anti science and even 'reputable' which just means big$/big PR, or 'peer-reviewed' since peers are as controlled as any politician) long in advance of this biowarfare /information-technonogly-controlled-propaganda Trojan Horse approach.
The culture cards were stacked against factual understanding long before I personally was able to consider those truths myself - which must be what people mean by the term 'waking up.'
Which is just to point out that the onus we carry is a much heavier burden at the current juncture (versus those we oppose, who only uphold "the best system we have, so we have to trust it" status quo, - of course w reward like keeping their status/income, however woefully short-term.)
Which is also just to highlight individual need for energy/psycho-spiritual emotional releasing skills - to keep clarity of thought/brain, openess of heart/authentic compassion, and thusly fertilize the growth of ultimately a new emergence of humanity w institutions that deserve to be trusted/respected and economies that truly work for the body-mind-spirit health on a whole.
Again, which is the crux fro me personally: how to let go of the apparent good of the past in oreder to throw out this filthy disgusting abhorant 'bathwater' that is now (for any critical thinker) undeniable - yet keep the 'baby' of what humanity can be/become/innately is. Whatever that vision can become is the crux for me, while I grapple w the harsh matrix of practical reality in which even my loved ones READILY support the denial of my civil and human rights.
So, staying out of fight/flight/freeze and optimizing my response-ability. Actually living a 'vision' that can ideally by-pass a civilization/societal rock-bottom (perhaps of famine, horrors of frank combat, etc) even as we articulate and face destructive realities of this novel technological Trojan Horse type of destruction -through propaganda/mis-information and usurping bodily autonomy.
Awareness is an important step in recovery :)
Which is why I say we gotta keep our spirits high - to withstand it all - and help complete a coceptual (psycho-spiritual emotional and practical) migration to an existance that would neccessarily be much improved over the bulk of our collective past and espeically the last two years.
Some quote about 'Those who willl change the world are those who are ok if they don't" - meaning there are more effective responses to horrific humna behavior than stooping to those same attitudes/ behaviors., including casting others in a box where they are not allowed to become different. Maybe as new normal is wierder and wierder people won't be so addicted to fitting in ??
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Thank you all for being here too & the good Dr. Unconditional :)
I’ve thought about some of what both what jessica and you have written for a while, although not at the depth you each go. food for thought. beautifully stated.
I did wonder about this myself a little while back, especially as so many of "us" admit to the fact that substacks such as yours keep us sane as there is no one left around us that we can discuss the situation with. I eventually decided that as my feeling of "wrongness" was there before I found all the lovely people who felt the same as me, and I am able to question the possibility of being in a Mass Formation myself, then I am probably not yet in one. I am prepared to change my mind.
I'd rather be caught in Jessica's matrix than trapped in Bill's, Klaus', Harari's, Fauci's and Castreau's iron matrix. Del Bigtree 's High Wire had a long interview with Mat Desmet yesterday. Fauci studied the wisdom of the ancient Chinese sage Fau Chi who said, "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give him a poisoned fish and he eats for a lifetime."
Agree. I was conscious of seeking out like minded people, especially when the jab tyranny and apartheid happened. I felt alone and needed support. I recall a feeling of betrayal when fellow unjabbed friends went and got jabbed! I found writers like JR, el gato malo, etc. and readers like everyone here and, I suppose, expanded my mass. But I dont think our mass has psychosis, as we are not being self-destructive.
That's one of the disturbing thing when you wake up in the midst of collective madness: there is that strange feeling of awkwardness. But it is my belief that this strange feeling comes from the fact you stand within objective reality and they don't. For instance I quite remember when the first real data came describing the lethality of the outbreak ("The Diamond Queen" ship was it?) and me thinking well it doesn't seem to be that bad when all the mainstream media (and most people) were going crazy. It's a staggering situation. But precisely because you are looking at the real data and no one else seems to be!
Ah! I remember when I discovered John Ioannidis, Raoult and the other anti-lockdown scientists. It felt good to read them or listen to them. But at that I time I already knew that all this wasn't about science at all.
Ha! But around June 2020 I was deep into James Corbett and such, so everything that came after all made sense to me although I was terrified. Oh yes I was.
I question the fear on both sides. The prepping and forecasting of crashes and catastrophes are hard for me to assess. Ten years ago my brother was afraid of my going overseas in case SHTF, and yet I had an amazing year abroad. Am traveling now. As of this moment not seeing food shortages and the like. My vaxxed family and friends are still alive. Is “my side” going bonkers, or are their predictions accurate? Trying to live life as well as I can while I can.
A recent estimate set the fatality rate at around 1/800, so it's entirely possible not to know anyone who died. Are there 800 people that you've followed up with? Anyone missing that you haven't noticed yet? Are you sure?
You're not the only one I've heard say this, but it's the minority. But considering how variable the batches may be, there are a number of reasons why it hasn't hit your personal circle. There are quality issues related to storage, which may be sparing large numbers of people, more or less inadvertently. There are also strong reasons to suspect that there are blank batches; these may be directed on a geographical basis, specifically to drive down AEs. What I see is tons of fairly large clusters of reports, and then a handful of "all good here".
Our personal experience is at least two deaths about which there is just about no doubt, a handful of question marks, and maybe half a dozen unmistakable life-threatening/altering adverse reactions, along with stuff like shingles and arm pain. We don't talk much to most of our vaxxed friends anymore; we'd never know if most of them disappeared completely.
On the positive side, there could be handling issues which enhance the risk, and without these it might be relatively safer. This seems less likely, especially considering vials have been analyzed without any sign of mRNA, broken down or otherwise.
I am intrigued by the possibility of batches that became duds from handling, or were manufactured as blanks. (I like to think some of them could have been industrial sabotage) Last I read, 90-95% of us have antibodies, so reached herd immunity some time ago. I wonder about more lethality in the new booster. Of course, it will drive more variants again.
I wish someone was doing studies quantifying differences found in the immune Abs in blood of unvaxxed never infected (2%?) unvaxxed natural immunity, vaxxed with natural immunity prior to the vax, the vaxxed, the vaxxed with subsequent infection, those with side effects from being around vaxxed shedders. Can't think of more categories.
Air lift, will you cite the 1/800 analysis? I am an awake person without any direct contacts who have suffered severe adverse reactions (except for my dad who mysteriously had symptoms of chronic aneurism disease on way home from first jab ...). I live in an extremely provax community with over 90% vax rate (all ages!) ... in our town if 10,000 can expected to have a couple of sodden deaths but nothing at all, leading me to conclude the role of “batch manufacturing” must be a key factor in determining likelihood of neg outcome
"As of this moment not seeing food shortages and the like. My vaxxed family and friends are still alive."
Just curious whether you might have an educated guess on the development of those two parameters, i.e.,
How do you reckon the food, energy, "supply chain" shortages will develop over then next half year?
How do you reckon that the collective health of the fully vaxxed (or boosted) will develop over coming six months?
Ditto for civil unrest, crime, the loss of civil liberties, school indoctrination, "Wokeism" engulfing places of learning, corporations, places of worship, increase in the power of the state, the prospect / growing risk for more war, famine, misery, etc.
Yes, it is very important to live life. To maintain your sense of humor. To spend time with those you love. To smell the roses.
But a crisis is not only brewing, it is about to spill over. One which threatens that which we hold dear. If we do nothing but hope that the madness will somehow pass on its own, we are being delusional.
Reason. Take a stand. Call out evil. Pick your battles.
Keep Pursuit of the Truth and Learning to Love as your guiding principles.
"How do you reckon the food, energy, "supply chain" shortages will develop over then next half year?"
Head over to Theconservativetreehouse.com. That blogger seems to understand both the silly chain logistics and how the D.C. uniparty is willing to sabotage us to protect their power and wealth. Obviously, the bloggrf Sundance believes those two are linked.
Where is the biography so I can learn more about this? The other thought I had about that “event” was that Y2K was to make those that had prepped look ridiculous.
Good points. I said earlier that our mass is not self destructive but perhaps the doomsday element (mass vax deaths, starvation, 5G, etc) is. I’d bought in to some of that and it’s terrible to live with such fear. Good reminder to constantly question our own beliefs.
M, your exercise of self questioning is so important and a sign of strength. I am much the same ... my vaxxed friends and family seem well enough and, if I’d followed dire predictions from two years ago, I would have missed out on so much. I am a person who’s daily experience is out of line with my beliefs regarding the evils being dealt us in the name of covid.
I often take a step back to evaluate my conclusions ... I started with a “list of evidences” that made me think what I think ... things like obvious signs of propaganda, health mandates contrary to science etc etc ... however, these days, I have boiled it all down to me “north star” piece of evidence, the thing that if untrue, so if you provided me with a logical explanation, would require me to reconsider my whole position.
For me, that thing is VAERS. VAERS is the CDC owned and operated pharmacovigilance system that has been in place for over 30 years. H istorically speaking, exceedingly small numbers of deaths and severe adverse events have been followed by vax rollout shut downs (25 to 30 deaths following vaccination was enough to kill the swine flu vax, for example). So ... my North star evidence is that more than and average 50 US deaths per day have been logged in VAERS over the past two years ... 30,000 and counting. The CDC has famously declared carte blanc that ZERO of these are due to covid vax ... really? What about the massive number of those deaths occurring within hours of injection??? What about the collapses in the vax theaters just moments after being jabbed? There is no logic or historical procedure to explain what anyone with a computer can observe!
My North Star is VAERS. If you can begin to explain what is being reported there by doctors and nurses and families, I will listen to you very closely!
I have an additional north star. Almost everyone I work with for vaxxed. And 3-5% of them are our sick for a week at a time now... (something like 10+ total). Every week.
Before jabs, might be 1-2 per month. Not 2-2% per month, 1 or 2 total. Add to that the 1-2 per month heart attack or strokes in <50s... that never happened "BEFORE".
James, how large is the population at work? Are you noting heart attacks and strokes within that population or are you commenting on a general uptick? And the sick time relative to pre injection … you are saying illness has doubled? (I’m looking at your 2% and 5% …) I think what you have to say is so interesting because you are presenting a clear before/after picture. Anecdotal, sure, but that is all we are ever going to have at this rate 🙄
My world is a little more insular because I am a homemaker … I have five children and have a pretty good sense what is going on with what must be hundreds of families in my community (I have very social kids 🤣) … still nothing … my children husband and I are not injected and we are all waiting for the shoe to drop …
I have two "data sets" at work of different sizes. One is the immediate group I work in, which is 34 adults skewed to the back end of careers but with a mix of ages. The other group is folks I interact with between every day and 1-2 times a month. That group is roughly 100 or so. I have a friend of a friend awareness of probably another 200 or so on top of all those.
My personal data set outside work is now tiny after having rejected those that rejected my positions on the responses to the virus and societal controls. No more church, much less family interaction. I hear passing references to family illnesses ("Finally got over my cold" or "So and so has COVID). Those occur about once a month. What's new there is nobody ever had a cold or flu or anything like that in the summer on the TX gulf coast... can't recall even one in my 50+ yrs here.
The reason I am confident of the anecdotal trend is that I've always, ALWAYS been 1-2+ yrs ahead of everyone I know in picking up trends. And any that I sense that persist enough where I've considered them a longer term, persistent change have played out as such. It's just something I can sense better than most.
So very rare but increased major health issues that I can confirm, such as heart attack and deaths. I've seen a dozen deaths the path year, which is high but has occurred in senior citizen ranks. Half of those were people that I thought were healthy from a distance. Two in particular I'm pretty sure were very healthy in 60's, no comorbidities, unless something changed drastically in the COVID period (besides the vaccines). If asked to speculate, I would say all affected were very likely to have gotten the vaccine. No feel for the booster uptake, though, since that is clearly shifting and I'm close to only a tiny fraction of these folks.
I will say that I'm not seeing something like 1% or 5% people disabled or dying. I often question if what's observed/stated/feared is really going on for months at a time due to lack of people clearly succumbing. But, generally speaking, my inner circle is absent comorbidities and all of my lifelong friends are active outdoors (Vit D probably good). Few are overweight at all, and those that might be are only on the edge of that and young. So I feel my personal "home" data set is skewed to less likely to be immediately impacted. But a few have autoimmune challenges, maybe a third take prescriptions of some sort... so how do you really know?
For me, I feel I "know" b/c I can sense it's getting worse in a meaningful way. And my lifelong sense of that has been honed by honest self-feedback... was that assumption valid? I'm an engineer that solves highly complex problems every day. I have to learn from each instance to do the job well, and it's just an instinct I have... follow the truth, and a key for that is to validate/refute your assumptions over and over so you get smarter. I may not know why an assumption is likely to be good or bad, but I usually have an accurate sense of that probability. Experience and honesty over decades seems to lead to that...
Sorry for the long post. Just got to rambling about it and your observations/questions.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply! As I mentioned above, I have many acquaintances in my very highly vaxxed community and so far have detected nothing much. My brother, however, is in construction, in a high level admin position … he has noted several sudden deaths among suppliers and customers, his personal experience is quite alarming. I am a little nervous about this winter, that it could bring a lot of suffering in my town where the moms brag about how quickly they can get their children and babies injected with the newest booster. Horrible. Jesus, have mercy!
I have plenty of anxiety and am trying to be prepared (wood stove, water filtration, no debt, cash, etc.) — taking steps that I wouldn’t have done normally. I research and take care of my health. BUT, I am also telling myself that whether things get a little bad or a lot bad, very soon or pretty soon, AT THIS MOMENT I am able to live. AND, if I allow worst case fears to take over, I will be hunkered down in fear and losing this moment.
Often predictions of doom are bigger than the reality. At other times people deny bad things could happen (Jews who didn’t flee while they could). I am seeking balance, as I expect we all are. How to get it right? How to avoid regrets? How to be the person I will feel proud of being? I say, good luck to us all! And I mean that. ✌️
Thanks for your thoughtful response. I was mostly (over)reacting to your vax comments. I have permanent neurological injury from Pfizer, I struggle with this every day. Almost every vaxed member of my family has some form of injury - one emergency heart surgery and permanent heart damage following 2nd Pfizer, one with 2 eye surgeries for "rare" eye condition, one who had several feet of intestine removed, and another with legs like tree trunks from rapid onset lymphedema (etiology unknown) all of this has occurred within the last year and they were all healthy previously. My husband was forced to get the 2nd shot or be fired, and because he supports us both, we would have been completely destitute if he hadn't complied. The people who are orchestrating this are evil, and it makes me angry as f*ck...it's not some alternate "mass formation" that's creating my "perceptions" of what is happening, I'm living with the destruction they are sewing firsthand.
I’m very sorry to hear that. I’m so sorry for what’s happened to you. I’ve cried over videos of the injured, and donated to some. I fully believe these shots are dangerous. I’ve had two sisters with heart issues from them. I’m grateful they are both alive. I pray those I love are resilient and their bodies heal. The fear that those I love will die off soon truly keeps one awake at night. And that kind of fear is what I’m trying not to marinate in. ✌️
All of my siblings took it, and two of my own children, despite my pleadings and giving information; I was called an anti-vaxxer and conspiracy theorist. My son has heart damage. Was told by one of my brothers that he hoped I'd die of the covid; of course I no longer speak to him. I had the covid, had the treatments on hand, no big deal. It has a better than 90% survival rate, even for the older folks.
This is a terrible reality for you! I am privileged to see it all like a bad movie playing out … my immediate family was able to opt OUT and we have limited extended family. Also, I suspect the “bad match” thing is major and that areas like yours got a very bad batch while maybe places like my community got “good batches” … it seems pretty obvious to me that, immediate bad reactions aside, there is an incoming tsunami of VAIDS and ADE and cancers and (oh my gosh Lotd protect us) fertility problems. When I consider I can count in one hand the number of non injected families I know in my small town (3500 households), I wince. My kids best friends, the families we have known since our oldest was a newborn … almost every single one has double vaxxed and boosted their children. I think about my 15 year old daughter, how she could be the only one of her large friend group to have children, how she will almost certainly and at a young age lose some of those friends to cancer … crying …
Really nicely put, M … I’ve done some very minimal prep work but, in absence of observational confirmation, I am a little limited as to what I am willing to do … ie, if I could clearly observe friends and family dying or being maimed I could make more drastic adjustments to secure an inevitable future … I really believe scary signs will intrude my bubble eventually and then I will react strongly
You've wrapped back around to our first RTE Roundtable where we discussed how science is antiauthoritarian. This is why we need for people to correctly identify the corruption, but not throw science out with the bathwater.
This is the reason I also write about "Reality TV" in some articles, and we are developing a segment called "Glitches in the Matrix" where we will explain likely historical instances of mass perception tricks.
I wonder if this is not actually laziness, but actually being extremely busy. For example, working multiple jobs, having multiple kids, perhaps also health issues. And, we can't forget that many people have trauma from one source or another, that makes "sticking out" seems very dangerous indeed (e.g. immigrants, those from abusive households).
That’s too, Sconnie. Totally. I’ve thought of this a lot. I think it’s both what you and Irene say. I also think our culture is very very reliant on allopathic medicine, think of their doctors as god-like. If you know the AMA history, you know that’s part of the plan, from the late 1800s or so.
This is a good point you make … socially and time resource wise and maybe financially, this hate to destruction is very wide … when I think of all the types of resources it took for my family and I to OPT OUT, it is sobering … it is a particular set of assets that allowed us to escape … we are financially able to avoid situations where we were not wanted, we are “socially independent” (“loners” i used to call people like us and it wasn’t a compliment), my kids’ schools never actually kicked them out, the friends we really cared about were supportive although many of those chose the easier path. Also, I am “anti establishment” raised by an anti establishment mother … my husband is just a badass. We were able to see the deception from a long ways away … that is a blessing, not an absolute! We are very lucky or very blessed (I lean heavily toward believing that second thing)
Yes. And some of those who are aware of the dissonance take no responsIbility for their horrific behavior toward the unjabbed. Those who remained silent watching the vitriol, well that speaks volumes. Some are now behaving as if we are all just moving on from being in the same boat, Which couldn’t be farther from reality. It’s like, ok, it’s now time to join, as Jessica said, the “other side.” I’m really struggling with this, in part because I KNOW it’s not over. Heck, this seems to me like a test run. I mean, look what’s happening to farmers. How far will this go? Can it be stopped? Not sure this entirely makes sense, but I FEEL it, deeply.
Yes, true. Apologies would be nice. But, as you said, as much as possibly both sides want this to be over, it seems like the totalitarians are ramping up new ways to divide and conquer. The upcoming dividing line seems to be all about slick, glossy, greenwashed technology. Either accept all the newly-greenwashed, lab-grown, GMO-promoting, gut-destroying, farmer-bankrupting policies, or you hate the environment.
There is also the possibility that it is "mind control, one person at a time"......Katherine Austin Fitts has some great interviews and commentary on this. She is at solari.com.
Walking away if I cannot remain mask free. Dropped my dentist and PCP for that reason last month. The dentist is ridiculous, given I'm mask free during the entire time in the dadgum chair! And yes, I made sure the Doc office realized two things. First, I only wanted the annual blood tests from my physical (free) and second, I do not trust them.
"1) The adjustive or adaptive function. Schools are to establish fixed habits of reaction to authority. This, of course, precludes critical judgment completely. It also pretty much destroys the idea that useful or interesting material should be taught, because you can't test for reflexive obedience until you know whether you can make kids learn, and do, foolish and boring things.
2) The integrating function. This might well be called "the conformity function," because its intention is to make children as alike as possible. People who conform are predictable, and this is of great use to those who wish to harness and manipulate a large labor force." http://wesjones.com/gatto1.htm
People are conditioned, usually by public schooling, to give emotion-based reactions, which exclude critical thinking and analysis. People who have taken up this conditioning are highly susceptible to mass formation whether they are "left" or "right" - look at the comments on popular "left" and "right" websites which have highly emotive presentations, and you can clearly see the reflexive and unthinking nature of the comments. The people making those comments are most likely in a mass formation.
That is interesting bc I always thought of it more as an obnoxious kind of childish ego thing. But how dumb of me bc you are right...that circles right back to conformity.
Stream...I have thought for decades something as simple as everyone standing up to pledge allegiance is an aspect of conditioning. Good little students following along.
Well, this is an interesting direction to take the idea. There's a way of thinking about this, that no matter where you may wind up on the psy-op spectrum, our minds have been absorbed by it. We never wanted to be in this situation, learning everything we can about every aspect.
We were drafted by the stark necessity. Well, they've figured out how to harness our energy as well. We've been transformed by resistance, so it's hard to feel like we're really evading the propaganda. In a way, we're more absorbed than those who swallowed it hook line and sinker. We certainly have more reason to focus on these topics.
You may or may not be familiar with the sharp critical controversy which has arisen over this book and theory. If you aren't, you should be.
We were actually given an advance copy by the publisher for review, and had a mixed one to present by the release date. So, we've been sitting with these questions for a couple of months now.
Really enjoyed your articles! A couple of not very profound thoughts:
"this dismissal provides cover for malevolent intent, which hides behind the polite myth that even the most manipulative movers and shakers mean well in their hearts"
That aspect of his argument bothered me and Desmet promoted it during his interview with Tucker Carlson, as well. Why does it have to be all one way or the other? Why not a combination of some movers and shakers with malevolent intent who are supported/aided by other movers and shakers who mean well and think the former mean well.
"If these drills and exercises were truly for the purpose of preparing for future pandemics, why were the authorities so unprepared?" and "If the various pandemic planning exercises were simply well-meaning contingency exercises, how does one reconcile their startling accuracy with the incompetence of their response?"
After skimming a paper about the SPARS Pandemic (url below), it occurred to me that the planning may not have been about handling a pandemic inasmuch as it was an exercise to determine how to handle communications in order to control/manipulate the masses.
Finally, the "conspiracy theory" label is simply an Alinsky tactic used to denigrate the opposition and I totally agree that Hanlon’s Razor is a lazy man's argument. It galls me every time I hear someone use the latter.
Didn't all the drills end the same? Loss of Democracy and millions dead from vaccines as well as the virus? As RFK says in his book, "Covid was a dud". So the people weren't scared enough to fall for it hook, line and sinker. Seems obvious to me the drills weren't about anything other than planning for a power grab. But this is just my impression from the book.
It would appear unlikely we are NOT in a mass of our own, but isn't it safe to say that the power of any mass is in its ability to isolate and censor conflicting voices? The disinfectant is open, free speech and sunshine...oh yes, and inclusive dialogue that embraces even the worst bozos. We each are called upon to embrace and listen, never shame...or welcome to yet another box!
BTW, please do read Desmet's book. MC unfortunately missed what I considered Desmet's most provocative main points in his synopsis during your discussion.
I was very familiar with Desmet's theories on mass formation, as elaborated in so many interviews. I picked up the book with almost a ho-hum attitude...then instead plunged into references to quantum theory, chaos theory, and a treatise on the transition of our culture into a materialist (read "mechanistic") misreading of the universe that results in this totalitarianism where there are no questions but only answers, rules, and algorithms. Far from the MC summary of a thin book--easy to read in one hour--about one interesting but overworked theory. I found the book a thoughtful and thought-provoking dive into philosophy...and one that sticks in my brain like fresh organic peanut butter on my palate and draws its own connections to much of what I have read and dreamed since.
I agree ~ we aren't massive enough to constitute a mass formation of our own! Not to mention the fact that there are nuanced dissenting voices within our cohort.
The Mass Formation Psychosis is not new as a known phenomenon. Dr. Desmet expanded on the concept in helpful and timely ways, and particularly as it relates to psychology. However, it has manifested itself many times throughout history, including in our own time before Covid, and has been written about extensively. Consider Dutch tulips in the 16th century, or contemporary North Korean society. Although not expressly named as such, Arendt had much to say about this phenomenon. To his credit, Dr. Desmet leaned heavily on her work in his book. While he was not referenced nearly as much, Joost Merloo provides invaluable insights and I also saw his influence throughout Desmet's work.
From very early on in all this, Dr. Mike Yeadon was the first I saw speaking out earnestly about the prospect of a totalitarian agenda. Like many, I had already recognized that the Covid narratives were bogus, but Yeadon helped make this irrefutable and through a logical process of elimination, helped many of us see that this most outlandish prospect of a totalitarian agenda was the most likely remaining conclusion. While I was not ready to accept it outright, I was in no position to dismiss it, either.
Fifty or sixty books later, spanning all-things-Covid, propaganda, totalitarianism, Big Pharma, Big Tech, the MSM, the Deep State (and especially the CIA), totalitarian China, and Bill Gates, plus everything I could get my hands on concerning these globalist organizations that rule our world, and I am now under no doubt that Mike Yeadon was correct. Furthermore, I agree with your hypothesis: we are living in a manufactured matrix of sorts, that has been built over decades for this purpose. Once you see it, you see it everywhere, and it all makes sense.
There is a book I can recommend with some caveats. It's called 'The Falsification of Science' by John Hamer. In many respects, it is quite a frustrating read because Hamer is a) a full-blown conspiracy theorist, and he's clearly frustrated so b) he takes many shortcuts, often failing to support his arguments, which are clearly not always right, and the book does not have a bibliography. (Can't stand that!) BUT, he's a trained physicist and obviously extremely smart. He has questions and makes many fascinating arguments which are incredibly eye-opening. While I don't agree with him on all that he says, he succeeds in his primary goal, which is to systematically dismantle close to a dozen major scientific beliefs we have all been indoctrinated to accept as unquestionable truths. He shows that many of them are by-in-large doctrines, that powerful people over generations have used to control narratives, to stifle scientific discovery for their own ends, and to effectively create a very clear and easy means for identifying an in group and out group from Power's perspective, which is broadly split between those who 'know' and those who do not. The less you know, the easier it is to control and manipulate you. As I said, there's much I did not like about this book but it succeeds in its mission and is well worth reading.
All my cumulative studies convince me beyond doubt that our demented globalists and their organizations have knowingly induced today's global Mass Formation Psychosis. (Further evidence of this can be seen almost every time Bill Gates opens his mouth. He clearly understands and has studied Nudge Theory and other psyop techniques.) I also know for my own purposes that they have been working on this project for many many decades. For those who are interested specifically in this, I recommend reading Daniel Estulin, Patrick M. Wood, G. Edward Griffin, and Carroll Quigley, among others. Laura Dodsworth definitely spilled many of the beans with her exceptional book, 'A State of Fear' in 2021, but it is just the beginning. Arendt's, 'The Origins of Totalitarianism' provides an important backbone for making sense of much of it. Hope it helps.
I like Fitts for her economic experience and insights. But rolled my eyes when she recently said the plan is to control us from space. So I don’t buy everything those in our mass are thinking and saying.
As an aside, even the elite / government controlled MSM propaganda machine is still useful to me in that I know to investigate both the opposite of what they say, and the things they downplay or don’t cover at all. Obviously, having an extensive range of independent and alternative media sources and experts to go to is essential and I certainly spend a lot more time there than with the corrupt MSM. However, even there, it is not hard to find those with ulterior motives who are trying to manipulate. One has to make judgment calls on such things for one's self. My impression is that Fitts is highly intelligent, competent, and genuine. But, I trust no one unconditionally, nor do I underwrite everything any one person says, no matter how impressive they seem.
Questioning and triangulating everything of importance with other sources and data points is always the way to go. Fitts generally impresses me, not least because she often seems ahead of the game and goes deeper than most in some areas. Everyone is entitled to speculate. In terms of asserting facts, I have yet to find her to have been wildly wrong on something important, but I could be mistaken and anyone can be wrong sometimes. I’m not familiar with the space comment you reference, but I have an extensive tech background. If Fitts was talking about using satellite networks to aid the track and trace + Central Bank Digital Currency prisons that are being built up around us, that wouldn’t sound far-fetched to me at all.
Matthias touches on this (you need to read the book!) in that the reaction to the mass formation can become its own mass formation, especially if people go down too many single-focussed conspiracy theory rabbit holes. The antidote (if I recall correctly) was to keep listening to and talking to a broad range of people. (Including people you disagree with; I'm rather bad at that because I hate conflict.)
I also just finished watching 'Nudging, what is it? | Mind Health Connection Room’ from the World Council for Health where the dangers of the freedom side dwelling in too much fear messaging is raised. So that could absolutely get a lot of people moving in a destructive direction.
" The antidote (if I recall correctly) was to keep listening to and talking to a broad range of people."
Easier said than done; most likely you'd be talking to a person that is affected by the MF; should you doubt yourself then? And, in the unlikely event that you will find a person from the "club", you will see your ideas reflected... this is a very polarizing issue so what is the conclusion :P?
In the end, you can use VAERS as an indicator - this indicates which side of the population is in MF and which one is not.
I am at this point, having heard both Malone and Desmet discuss this on several occasions, beginning to conclude after revisiting what happened that those who say this did not arise spontaneously from the masses are correct in this case. Perhaps mass hypnosis can happen, not arguing that, but in the case of a bio weapon attack, it did not happen that way. Society was at full tilt, people were working, going to the gym going out to eat, we ran out of TP because manufacturing was geared toward that, then suddenly the most massive preplanned globally coordinated propaganda “we’re all in this (terrible thing) together” campaign rolled out across the globe by the perpetrators (not the general populace), stunning and forcing that highly active and robust population into isolation, preventing mass gathering and real communication. This was created by the perpetrators after years of germophobia priming starting with HIV, H1N1, Mers, Sars, West Nile, Ebola, etc. everyone carry hand-sanitizer. This didn’t arrive via the population, this arrived via the “health care” system + government + social media + msm.
Well, if we are truly Spirit, and yet identify as solely human, are we not in a mass delusion at least? I think this is important, is the difference between freedom and slavery, choosing love and choosing control(fear), and one way we can check whether we are free or not is simply to gauge our level of reactivity regarding those with opposing views, and heck, even those running this global kill machine. We can hold boundaries without attributing worthlessness, fundamental wrongness, evil to those who are prosecuting dark systems of control and slavery. Because, as soon as we lose our heart to any systemic response we lose our humanity, which paradoxically, as every 12 stepper knows, can only be retained with true and constant commitment to our deeper spiritual nature and to God, which and who cannot possibly be defined by us.
I accept this argument. And think the cube labelled The Real in your diagram might be where Truth lies. We are possibly all being distracted from finding out what this is. As humans, we get bogged down a lot.
Very good question - are we in our own mass formation? Desmet warns against opposing the safe and effectives with our own mass and given that some of the sovereignty lovers believe viruses don't exist and other differences of opinion that break out in our channels I don't think we are. Yet!
We aren't massive enough to constitute a mass formation of our own! Not to mention the fact that there are nuanced dissenting voices within our cohort.
"It is becoming ever more obvious that it is not famine, not earthquakes, not microbes, not cancer but man himself who is man's greatest danger to man, for the simple reason that there is no adequate protection against psychic epidemics which are infinitely more devastating than the worst of natural catastrophes." C G Jung
It's likely there are elements of 'mass formation' within the anti-globalist camp and, as time goes on and a 'movement' comes together, the possibility increases, but there were also many who were independently questioning right from the get go.
I would frame this differently. Try this idea for size ... Every living system is essentially self-maintaining, self-correcting and self-referential - a feedback loop (which is essentially toroidal in form). As holobionts, or ecosystems within ecosystems, we inhabit multiple multidimensional ecosystems, both material and conceptual, at multiple levels of existence. Any established system has a certain force and momentum which is increasingly capable of entraining processes - and hence their material manifestations and temporal interconnectivity (ie. 'events') - to that system once the system becomes established, stable and durable.
The inhabiting of conceptual feedback loops is mostly a given (ie. 'reality' is ultimately an illusion and objectivity fails), but for as long as we remain conscious of the fact that that's what we're doing, we persist in evaluating competing concepts on a more-or-less equal footing and, crucially, we have a means to access information from higher order systems, we remain more capable of critical and 'realistic' assessment which hasn't been 'captured' by any particular 'reality matrix'. At least at that level of reality ...
In other words, the way 'out' is 'in', but as living systems on this planet, we have to inhabit some sort of 'reality matrix'. So best we choose wisely! Personally, I choose Life!
LOVE THIS.
Desmet includes this quote:
"If only there were evil people somewhere insidiously committing evil deeds, and it were necessary only to separate them from the rest of us and destroy them. But the line dividing good and evil cuts through the heart of every human being. And who is willing to destroy a piece of his own heart?"
-Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, 'The Gulag Archipelago'.
So do I, even though it made my brain hurt. /s
"We have met the enemy, and he is us" -POGO
Well written. I wonder if the last 2.5 years took away the ability of people to maintain, evaluate and correct. When you have to oppose something for a long time you go into a ‘counter’ mode. This could prove to be the correct mode. Everyone paints their opponents as devils and being on the opposite side of something does not balance the cosmic scales.
For sure, we all contribute to the co-creation of said matrixces (whatever is plural for 'matrix is,) and it is critical that we are aware of this and that we 'keep our spirits up' so that we are intending toward a future we want to actually participate in. (Not the WEF/depopulation furture obviously long-range-coordinated by supra-national entities that must not fully grasp the fundamental innate power of even a singular human being.)
This has been the whole crux for me, personally. Of course 'Safe Effectives' are not typically dealing (consciously on any level) w the horrors of grasping the current evidentiary debasement of humanity, nor all the pending financial consequences of the participant corruption/capture - which thus only furthers said 'Safe Effectives' psychological/moral inability and unwillingness to question really anything - much less explore an accessible breadth of hardcore evidence (like jabbinated community members dying/being ill, forced-released FDA documents, or whistle-blower military docs, to name a few) contrasting multi-million-dollar-mainstream-platform narratives, entrenched narratives that had an advantage over truths through very early-on propagandized concepts ( like "anti-vaxer" or "Relligous Right"/anti science and even 'reputable' which just means big$/big PR, or 'peer-reviewed' since peers are as controlled as any politician) long in advance of this biowarfare /information-technonogly-controlled-propaganda Trojan Horse approach.
The culture cards were stacked against factual understanding long before I personally was able to consider those truths myself - which must be what people mean by the term 'waking up.'
Which is just to point out that the onus we carry is a much heavier burden at the current juncture (versus those we oppose, who only uphold "the best system we have, so we have to trust it" status quo, - of course w reward like keeping their status/income, however woefully short-term.)
Which is also just to highlight individual need for energy/psycho-spiritual emotional releasing skills - to keep clarity of thought/brain, openess of heart/authentic compassion, and thusly fertilize the growth of ultimately a new emergence of humanity w institutions that deserve to be trusted/respected and economies that truly work for the body-mind-spirit health on a whole.
Again, which is the crux fro me personally: how to let go of the apparent good of the past in oreder to throw out this filthy disgusting abhorant 'bathwater' that is now (for any critical thinker) undeniable - yet keep the 'baby' of what humanity can be/become/innately is. Whatever that vision can become is the crux for me, while I grapple w the harsh matrix of practical reality in which even my loved ones READILY support the denial of my civil and human rights.
So, staying out of fight/flight/freeze and optimizing my response-ability. Actually living a 'vision' that can ideally by-pass a civilization/societal rock-bottom (perhaps of famine, horrors of frank combat, etc) even as we articulate and face destructive realities of this novel technological Trojan Horse type of destruction -through propaganda/mis-information and usurping bodily autonomy.
Awareness is an important step in recovery :)
Which is why I say we gotta keep our spirits high - to withstand it all - and help complete a coceptual (psycho-spiritual emotional and practical) migration to an existance that would neccessarily be much improved over the bulk of our collective past and espeically the last two years.
Some quote about 'Those who willl change the world are those who are ok if they don't" - meaning there are more effective responses to horrific humna behavior than stooping to those same attitudes/ behaviors., including casting others in a box where they are not allowed to become different. Maybe as new normal is wierder and wierder people won't be so addicted to fitting in ??
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Thank you all for being here too & the good Dr. Unconditional :)
I’ve thought about some of what both what jessica and you have written for a while, although not at the depth you each go. food for thought. beautifully stated.
I did wonder about this myself a little while back, especially as so many of "us" admit to the fact that substacks such as yours keep us sane as there is no one left around us that we can discuss the situation with. I eventually decided that as my feeling of "wrongness" was there before I found all the lovely people who felt the same as me, and I am able to question the possibility of being in a Mass Formation myself, then I am probably not yet in one. I am prepared to change my mind.
HAHAHA what a scary thought that i might be one of the matrix creators!
I'd rather be caught in Jessica's matrix than trapped in Bill's, Klaus', Harari's, Fauci's and Castreau's iron matrix. Del Bigtree 's High Wire had a long interview with Mat Desmet yesterday. Fauci studied the wisdom of the ancient Chinese sage Fau Chi who said, "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give him a poisoned fish and he eats for a lifetime."
Agree. I was conscious of seeking out like minded people, especially when the jab tyranny and apartheid happened. I felt alone and needed support. I recall a feeling of betrayal when fellow unjabbed friends went and got jabbed! I found writers like JR, el gato malo, etc. and readers like everyone here and, I suppose, expanded my mass. But I dont think our mass has psychosis, as we are not being self-destructive.
"jab apartheid" thanks, I needed that (for a letter to my mayor)
That's one of the disturbing thing when you wake up in the midst of collective madness: there is that strange feeling of awkwardness. But it is my belief that this strange feeling comes from the fact you stand within objective reality and they don't. For instance I quite remember when the first real data came describing the lethality of the outbreak ("The Diamond Queen" ship was it?) and me thinking well it doesn't seem to be that bad when all the mainstream media (and most people) were going crazy. It's a staggering situation. But precisely because you are looking at the real data and no one else seems to be!
Diamond Princess. It's the Princess cruise line.
Conveniently docked in Oakland, terrifying the Lefties and Wokeies.
Ah! I remember when I discovered John Ioannidis, Raoult and the other anti-lockdown scientists. It felt good to read them or listen to them. But at that I time I already knew that all this wasn't about science at all.
Ha! But around June 2020 I was deep into James Corbett and such, so everything that came after all made sense to me although I was terrified. Oh yes I was.
I question the fear on both sides. The prepping and forecasting of crashes and catastrophes are hard for me to assess. Ten years ago my brother was afraid of my going overseas in case SHTF, and yet I had an amazing year abroad. Am traveling now. As of this moment not seeing food shortages and the like. My vaxxed family and friends are still alive. Is “my side” going bonkers, or are their predictions accurate? Trying to live life as well as I can while I can.
A recent estimate set the fatality rate at around 1/800, so it's entirely possible not to know anyone who died. Are there 800 people that you've followed up with? Anyone missing that you haven't noticed yet? Are you sure?
You're not the only one I've heard say this, but it's the minority. But considering how variable the batches may be, there are a number of reasons why it hasn't hit your personal circle. There are quality issues related to storage, which may be sparing large numbers of people, more or less inadvertently. There are also strong reasons to suspect that there are blank batches; these may be directed on a geographical basis, specifically to drive down AEs. What I see is tons of fairly large clusters of reports, and then a handful of "all good here".
Our personal experience is at least two deaths about which there is just about no doubt, a handful of question marks, and maybe half a dozen unmistakable life-threatening/altering adverse reactions, along with stuff like shingles and arm pain. We don't talk much to most of our vaxxed friends anymore; we'd never know if most of them disappeared completely.
On the positive side, there could be handling issues which enhance the risk, and without these it might be relatively safer. This seems less likely, especially considering vials have been analyzed without any sign of mRNA, broken down or otherwise.
Air Lift and Michigan, I see truth in both. Get on with living while remembering "bad things can happen to good people".
I am intrigued by the possibility of batches that became duds from handling, or were manufactured as blanks. (I like to think some of them could have been industrial sabotage) Last I read, 90-95% of us have antibodies, so reached herd immunity some time ago. I wonder about more lethality in the new booster. Of course, it will drive more variants again.
There's a lot of discussion on the subject, but it's hard to know what's really happening, because independent analysis is not generally legal.
An anonymously cited lab found blanks, according to Steve Kirsch.
https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/want-to-know-whats-inside-the-vaccine
I wish someone was doing studies quantifying differences found in the immune Abs in blood of unvaxxed never infected (2%?) unvaxxed natural immunity, vaxxed with natural immunity prior to the vax, the vaxxed, the vaxxed with subsequent infection, those with side effects from being around vaxxed shedders. Can't think of more categories.
Air lift, will you cite the 1/800 analysis? I am an awake person without any direct contacts who have suffered severe adverse reactions (except for my dad who mysteriously had symptoms of chronic aneurism disease on way home from first jab ...). I live in an extremely provax community with over 90% vax rate (all ages!) ... in our town if 10,000 can expected to have a couple of sodden deaths but nothing at all, leading me to conclude the role of “batch manufacturing” must be a key factor in determining likelihood of neg outcome
Well, this was from the Netherlands. Here's Malone's article on it.
https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/coronavax-safety-in-the-netherlands
@ M from Michigan -
You write,
"As of this moment not seeing food shortages and the like. My vaxxed family and friends are still alive."
Just curious whether you might have an educated guess on the development of those two parameters, i.e.,
How do you reckon the food, energy, "supply chain" shortages will develop over then next half year?
How do you reckon that the collective health of the fully vaxxed (or boosted) will develop over coming six months?
Ditto for civil unrest, crime, the loss of civil liberties, school indoctrination, "Wokeism" engulfing places of learning, corporations, places of worship, increase in the power of the state, the prospect / growing risk for more war, famine, misery, etc.
Yes, it is very important to live life. To maintain your sense of humor. To spend time with those you love. To smell the roses.
But a crisis is not only brewing, it is about to spill over. One which threatens that which we hold dear. If we do nothing but hope that the madness will somehow pass on its own, we are being delusional.
Reason. Take a stand. Call out evil. Pick your battles.
Keep Pursuit of the Truth and Learning to Love as your guiding principles.
"How do you reckon the food, energy, "supply chain" shortages will develop over then next half year?"
Head over to Theconservativetreehouse.com. That blogger seems to understand both the silly chain logistics and how the D.C. uniparty is willing to sabotage us to protect their power and wealth. Obviously, the bloggrf Sundance believes those two are linked.
Agree. I keep thinking of Y2K. We have our own fear porn.
Where is the biography so I can learn more about this? The other thought I had about that “event” was that Y2K was to make those that had prepped look ridiculous.
tbc
Thank you! Will listen during my travels today. I am the same. Never watch TV but always listening to podcasts on many subjects.
Good points. I said earlier that our mass is not self destructive but perhaps the doomsday element (mass vax deaths, starvation, 5G, etc) is. I’d bought in to some of that and it’s terrible to live with such fear. Good reminder to constantly question our own beliefs.
M, your exercise of self questioning is so important and a sign of strength. I am much the same ... my vaxxed friends and family seem well enough and, if I’d followed dire predictions from two years ago, I would have missed out on so much. I am a person who’s daily experience is out of line with my beliefs regarding the evils being dealt us in the name of covid.
I often take a step back to evaluate my conclusions ... I started with a “list of evidences” that made me think what I think ... things like obvious signs of propaganda, health mandates contrary to science etc etc ... however, these days, I have boiled it all down to me “north star” piece of evidence, the thing that if untrue, so if you provided me with a logical explanation, would require me to reconsider my whole position.
For me, that thing is VAERS. VAERS is the CDC owned and operated pharmacovigilance system that has been in place for over 30 years. H istorically speaking, exceedingly small numbers of deaths and severe adverse events have been followed by vax rollout shut downs (25 to 30 deaths following vaccination was enough to kill the swine flu vax, for example). So ... my North star evidence is that more than and average 50 US deaths per day have been logged in VAERS over the past two years ... 30,000 and counting. The CDC has famously declared carte blanc that ZERO of these are due to covid vax ... really? What about the massive number of those deaths occurring within hours of injection??? What about the collapses in the vax theaters just moments after being jabbed? There is no logic or historical procedure to explain what anyone with a computer can observe!
My North Star is VAERS. If you can begin to explain what is being reported there by doctors and nurses and families, I will listen to you very closely!
I have an additional north star. Almost everyone I work with for vaxxed. And 3-5% of them are our sick for a week at a time now... (something like 10+ total). Every week.
Before jabs, might be 1-2 per month. Not 2-2% per month, 1 or 2 total. Add to that the 1-2 per month heart attack or strokes in <50s... that never happened "BEFORE".
James, how large is the population at work? Are you noting heart attacks and strokes within that population or are you commenting on a general uptick? And the sick time relative to pre injection … you are saying illness has doubled? (I’m looking at your 2% and 5% …) I think what you have to say is so interesting because you are presenting a clear before/after picture. Anecdotal, sure, but that is all we are ever going to have at this rate 🙄
My world is a little more insular because I am a homemaker … I have five children and have a pretty good sense what is going on with what must be hundreds of families in my community (I have very social kids 🤣) … still nothing … my children husband and I are not injected and we are all waiting for the shoe to drop …
I have two "data sets" at work of different sizes. One is the immediate group I work in, which is 34 adults skewed to the back end of careers but with a mix of ages. The other group is folks I interact with between every day and 1-2 times a month. That group is roughly 100 or so. I have a friend of a friend awareness of probably another 200 or so on top of all those.
My personal data set outside work is now tiny after having rejected those that rejected my positions on the responses to the virus and societal controls. No more church, much less family interaction. I hear passing references to family illnesses ("Finally got over my cold" or "So and so has COVID). Those occur about once a month. What's new there is nobody ever had a cold or flu or anything like that in the summer on the TX gulf coast... can't recall even one in my 50+ yrs here.
The reason I am confident of the anecdotal trend is that I've always, ALWAYS been 1-2+ yrs ahead of everyone I know in picking up trends. And any that I sense that persist enough where I've considered them a longer term, persistent change have played out as such. It's just something I can sense better than most.
So very rare but increased major health issues that I can confirm, such as heart attack and deaths. I've seen a dozen deaths the path year, which is high but has occurred in senior citizen ranks. Half of those were people that I thought were healthy from a distance. Two in particular I'm pretty sure were very healthy in 60's, no comorbidities, unless something changed drastically in the COVID period (besides the vaccines). If asked to speculate, I would say all affected were very likely to have gotten the vaccine. No feel for the booster uptake, though, since that is clearly shifting and I'm close to only a tiny fraction of these folks.
I will say that I'm not seeing something like 1% or 5% people disabled or dying. I often question if what's observed/stated/feared is really going on for months at a time due to lack of people clearly succumbing. But, generally speaking, my inner circle is absent comorbidities and all of my lifelong friends are active outdoors (Vit D probably good). Few are overweight at all, and those that might be are only on the edge of that and young. So I feel my personal "home" data set is skewed to less likely to be immediately impacted. But a few have autoimmune challenges, maybe a third take prescriptions of some sort... so how do you really know?
For me, I feel I "know" b/c I can sense it's getting worse in a meaningful way. And my lifelong sense of that has been honed by honest self-feedback... was that assumption valid? I'm an engineer that solves highly complex problems every day. I have to learn from each instance to do the job well, and it's just an instinct I have... follow the truth, and a key for that is to validate/refute your assumptions over and over so you get smarter. I may not know why an assumption is likely to be good or bad, but I usually have an accurate sense of that probability. Experience and honesty over decades seems to lead to that...
Sorry for the long post. Just got to rambling about it and your observations/questions.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply! As I mentioned above, I have many acquaintances in my very highly vaxxed community and so far have detected nothing much. My brother, however, is in construction, in a high level admin position … he has noted several sudden deaths among suppliers and customers, his personal experience is quite alarming. I am a little nervous about this winter, that it could bring a lot of suffering in my town where the moms brag about how quickly they can get their children and babies injected with the newest booster. Horrible. Jesus, have mercy!
Yes, you're living in a bubble. Good luck to you when it breaks.
I have plenty of anxiety and am trying to be prepared (wood stove, water filtration, no debt, cash, etc.) — taking steps that I wouldn’t have done normally. I research and take care of my health. BUT, I am also telling myself that whether things get a little bad or a lot bad, very soon or pretty soon, AT THIS MOMENT I am able to live. AND, if I allow worst case fears to take over, I will be hunkered down in fear and losing this moment.
Often predictions of doom are bigger than the reality. At other times people deny bad things could happen (Jews who didn’t flee while they could). I am seeking balance, as I expect we all are. How to get it right? How to avoid regrets? How to be the person I will feel proud of being? I say, good luck to us all! And I mean that. ✌️
Thanks for your thoughtful response. I was mostly (over)reacting to your vax comments. I have permanent neurological injury from Pfizer, I struggle with this every day. Almost every vaxed member of my family has some form of injury - one emergency heart surgery and permanent heart damage following 2nd Pfizer, one with 2 eye surgeries for "rare" eye condition, one who had several feet of intestine removed, and another with legs like tree trunks from rapid onset lymphedema (etiology unknown) all of this has occurred within the last year and they were all healthy previously. My husband was forced to get the 2nd shot or be fired, and because he supports us both, we would have been completely destitute if he hadn't complied. The people who are orchestrating this are evil, and it makes me angry as f*ck...it's not some alternate "mass formation" that's creating my "perceptions" of what is happening, I'm living with the destruction they are sewing firsthand.
I’m very sorry to hear that. I’m so sorry for what’s happened to you. I’ve cried over videos of the injured, and donated to some. I fully believe these shots are dangerous. I’ve had two sisters with heart issues from them. I’m grateful they are both alive. I pray those I love are resilient and their bodies heal. The fear that those I love will die off soon truly keeps one awake at night. And that kind of fear is what I’m trying not to marinate in. ✌️
All of my siblings took it, and two of my own children, despite my pleadings and giving information; I was called an anti-vaxxer and conspiracy theorist. My son has heart damage. Was told by one of my brothers that he hoped I'd die of the covid; of course I no longer speak to him. I had the covid, had the treatments on hand, no big deal. It has a better than 90% survival rate, even for the older folks.
This is a terrible reality for you! I am privileged to see it all like a bad movie playing out … my immediate family was able to opt OUT and we have limited extended family. Also, I suspect the “bad match” thing is major and that areas like yours got a very bad batch while maybe places like my community got “good batches” … it seems pretty obvious to me that, immediate bad reactions aside, there is an incoming tsunami of VAIDS and ADE and cancers and (oh my gosh Lotd protect us) fertility problems. When I consider I can count in one hand the number of non injected families I know in my small town (3500 households), I wince. My kids best friends, the families we have known since our oldest was a newborn … almost every single one has double vaxxed and boosted their children. I think about my 15 year old daughter, how she could be the only one of her large friend group to have children, how she will almost certainly and at a young age lose some of those friends to cancer … crying …
i agree
Really nicely put, M … I’ve done some very minimal prep work but, in absence of observational confirmation, I am a little limited as to what I am willing to do … ie, if I could clearly observe friends and family dying or being maimed I could make more drastic adjustments to secure an inevitable future … I really believe scary signs will intrude my bubble eventually and then I will react strongly
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I am also in a bubble and fully expecting the inevitable burst …
100%!
You've wrapped back around to our first RTE Roundtable where we discussed how science is antiauthoritarian. This is why we need for people to correctly identify the corruption, but not throw science out with the bathwater.
This is the reason I also write about "Reality TV" in some articles, and we are developing a segment called "Glitches in the Matrix" where we will explain likely historical instances of mass perception tricks.
Exactly.
Those susceptible to the propaganda willingly accept authority.
They choose to NOT think critically, to NOT challenge authority.
Now they are all suffering cognitive dissonance.
A lot of people are also intellectually lazy and find it “easier” to not think too hard about anything nor question too deeply and just be a lemming.
I wonder if this is not actually laziness, but actually being extremely busy. For example, working multiple jobs, having multiple kids, perhaps also health issues. And, we can't forget that many people have trauma from one source or another, that makes "sticking out" seems very dangerous indeed (e.g. immigrants, those from abusive households).
That’s too, Sconnie. Totally. I’ve thought of this a lot. I think it’s both what you and Irene say. I also think our culture is very very reliant on allopathic medicine, think of their doctors as god-like. If you know the AMA history, you know that’s part of the plan, from the late 1800s or so.
This is a good point you make … socially and time resource wise and maybe financially, this hate to destruction is very wide … when I think of all the types of resources it took for my family and I to OPT OUT, it is sobering … it is a particular set of assets that allowed us to escape … we are financially able to avoid situations where we were not wanted, we are “socially independent” (“loners” i used to call people like us and it wasn’t a compliment), my kids’ schools never actually kicked them out, the friends we really cared about were supportive although many of those chose the easier path. Also, I am “anti establishment” raised by an anti establishment mother … my husband is just a badass. We were able to see the deception from a long ways away … that is a blessing, not an absolute! We are very lucky or very blessed (I lean heavily toward believing that second thing)
Absolutely, Irene. Like, Ignorance is bliss.
Yes. And some of those who are aware of the dissonance take no responsIbility for their horrific behavior toward the unjabbed. Those who remained silent watching the vitriol, well that speaks volumes. Some are now behaving as if we are all just moving on from being in the same boat, Which couldn’t be farther from reality. It’s like, ok, it’s now time to join, as Jessica said, the “other side.” I’m really struggling with this, in part because I KNOW it’s not over. Heck, this seems to me like a test run. I mean, look what’s happening to farmers. How far will this go? Can it be stopped? Not sure this entirely makes sense, but I FEEL it, deeply.
Yes, true. Apologies would be nice. But, as you said, as much as possibly both sides want this to be over, it seems like the totalitarians are ramping up new ways to divide and conquer. The upcoming dividing line seems to be all about slick, glossy, greenwashed technology. Either accept all the newly-greenwashed, lab-grown, GMO-promoting, gut-destroying, farmer-bankrupting policies, or you hate the environment.
There is also the possibility that it is "mind control, one person at a time"......Katherine Austin Fitts has some great interviews and commentary on this. She is at solari.com.
The antidote boils down to "civil courage".
Speaking up, raising uncomfortable questions, pushing back as our rights are trampled.
Taking off the mask. Smiling to strangers. Engaging in dialogues embracing mutual respect.
and self-responsibility! amen
Walking away if I cannot remain mask free. Dropped my dentist and PCP for that reason last month. The dentist is ridiculous, given I'm mask free during the entire time in the dadgum chair! And yes, I made sure the Doc office realized two things. First, I only wanted the annual blood tests from my physical (free) and second, I do not trust them.
"1) The adjustive or adaptive function. Schools are to establish fixed habits of reaction to authority. This, of course, precludes critical judgment completely. It also pretty much destroys the idea that useful or interesting material should be taught, because you can't test for reflexive obedience until you know whether you can make kids learn, and do, foolish and boring things.
2) The integrating function. This might well be called "the conformity function," because its intention is to make children as alike as possible. People who conform are predictable, and this is of great use to those who wish to harness and manipulate a large labor force." http://wesjones.com/gatto1.htm
People are conditioned, usually by public schooling, to give emotion-based reactions, which exclude critical thinking and analysis. People who have taken up this conditioning are highly susceptible to mass formation whether they are "left" or "right" - look at the comments on popular "left" and "right" websites which have highly emotive presentations, and you can clearly see the reflexive and unthinking nature of the comments. The people making those comments are most likely in a mass formation.
Pronouns in bios are another dead give away
That is interesting bc I always thought of it more as an obnoxious kind of childish ego thing. But how dumb of me bc you are right...that circles right back to conformity.
trained and conditioned into us by the adjustive and conformity functions.
Stream...I have thought for decades something as simple as everyone standing up to pledge allegiance is an aspect of conditioning. Good little students following along.
Well, this is an interesting direction to take the idea. There's a way of thinking about this, that no matter where you may wind up on the psy-op spectrum, our minds have been absorbed by it. We never wanted to be in this situation, learning everything we can about every aspect.
We were drafted by the stark necessity. Well, they've figured out how to harness our energy as well. We've been transformed by resistance, so it's hard to feel like we're really evading the propaganda. In a way, we're more absorbed than those who swallowed it hook line and sinker. We certainly have more reason to focus on these topics.
You may or may not be familiar with the sharp critical controversy which has arisen over this book and theory. If you aren't, you should be.
We were actually given an advance copy by the publisher for review, and had a mixed one to present by the release date. So, we've been sitting with these questions for a couple of months now.
Our recent article sums up our various reactions.
https://icthruit.substack.com/p/hanlons-razor-and-other-fake-aphorisms
The original review: https://icthruit.substack.com/p/the-psychology-of-totalitarianism
Really enjoyed your articles! A couple of not very profound thoughts:
"this dismissal provides cover for malevolent intent, which hides behind the polite myth that even the most manipulative movers and shakers mean well in their hearts"
That aspect of his argument bothered me and Desmet promoted it during his interview with Tucker Carlson, as well. Why does it have to be all one way or the other? Why not a combination of some movers and shakers with malevolent intent who are supported/aided by other movers and shakers who mean well and think the former mean well.
"If these drills and exercises were truly for the purpose of preparing for future pandemics, why were the authorities so unprepared?" and "If the various pandemic planning exercises were simply well-meaning contingency exercises, how does one reconcile their startling accuracy with the incompetence of their response?"
After skimming a paper about the SPARS Pandemic (url below), it occurred to me that the planning may not have been about handling a pandemic inasmuch as it was an exercise to determine how to handle communications in order to control/manipulate the masses.
SPARS: https://stars.library.ucf.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1029&context=jicrcr
Finally, the "conspiracy theory" label is simply an Alinsky tactic used to denigrate the opposition and I totally agree that Hanlon’s Razor is a lazy man's argument. It galls me every time I hear someone use the latter.
Didn't all the drills end the same? Loss of Democracy and millions dead from vaccines as well as the virus? As RFK says in his book, "Covid was a dud". So the people weren't scared enough to fall for it hook, line and sinker. Seems obvious to me the drills weren't about anything other than planning for a power grab. But this is just my impression from the book.
We are most definitely more absorbed...out of necessity, IMO.
It would appear unlikely we are NOT in a mass of our own, but isn't it safe to say that the power of any mass is in its ability to isolate and censor conflicting voices? The disinfectant is open, free speech and sunshine...oh yes, and inclusive dialogue that embraces even the worst bozos. We each are called upon to embrace and listen, never shame...or welcome to yet another box!
BTW, please do read Desmet's book. MC unfortunately missed what I considered Desmet's most provocative main points in his synopsis during your discussion.
can you elaborate?
I was very familiar with Desmet's theories on mass formation, as elaborated in so many interviews. I picked up the book with almost a ho-hum attitude...then instead plunged into references to quantum theory, chaos theory, and a treatise on the transition of our culture into a materialist (read "mechanistic") misreading of the universe that results in this totalitarianism where there are no questions but only answers, rules, and algorithms. Far from the MC summary of a thin book--easy to read in one hour--about one interesting but overworked theory. I found the book a thoughtful and thought-provoking dive into philosophy...and one that sticks in my brain like fresh organic peanut butter on my palate and draws its own connections to much of what I have read and dreamed since.
I agree ~ we aren't massive enough to constitute a mass formation of our own! Not to mention the fact that there are nuanced dissenting voices within our cohort.
The Mass Formation Psychosis is not new as a known phenomenon. Dr. Desmet expanded on the concept in helpful and timely ways, and particularly as it relates to psychology. However, it has manifested itself many times throughout history, including in our own time before Covid, and has been written about extensively. Consider Dutch tulips in the 16th century, or contemporary North Korean society. Although not expressly named as such, Arendt had much to say about this phenomenon. To his credit, Dr. Desmet leaned heavily on her work in his book. While he was not referenced nearly as much, Joost Merloo provides invaluable insights and I also saw his influence throughout Desmet's work.
From very early on in all this, Dr. Mike Yeadon was the first I saw speaking out earnestly about the prospect of a totalitarian agenda. Like many, I had already recognized that the Covid narratives were bogus, but Yeadon helped make this irrefutable and through a logical process of elimination, helped many of us see that this most outlandish prospect of a totalitarian agenda was the most likely remaining conclusion. While I was not ready to accept it outright, I was in no position to dismiss it, either.
Fifty or sixty books later, spanning all-things-Covid, propaganda, totalitarianism, Big Pharma, Big Tech, the MSM, the Deep State (and especially the CIA), totalitarian China, and Bill Gates, plus everything I could get my hands on concerning these globalist organizations that rule our world, and I am now under no doubt that Mike Yeadon was correct. Furthermore, I agree with your hypothesis: we are living in a manufactured matrix of sorts, that has been built over decades for this purpose. Once you see it, you see it everywhere, and it all makes sense.
There is a book I can recommend with some caveats. It's called 'The Falsification of Science' by John Hamer. In many respects, it is quite a frustrating read because Hamer is a) a full-blown conspiracy theorist, and he's clearly frustrated so b) he takes many shortcuts, often failing to support his arguments, which are clearly not always right, and the book does not have a bibliography. (Can't stand that!) BUT, he's a trained physicist and obviously extremely smart. He has questions and makes many fascinating arguments which are incredibly eye-opening. While I don't agree with him on all that he says, he succeeds in his primary goal, which is to systematically dismantle close to a dozen major scientific beliefs we have all been indoctrinated to accept as unquestionable truths. He shows that many of them are by-in-large doctrines, that powerful people over generations have used to control narratives, to stifle scientific discovery for their own ends, and to effectively create a very clear and easy means for identifying an in group and out group from Power's perspective, which is broadly split between those who 'know' and those who do not. The less you know, the easier it is to control and manipulate you. As I said, there's much I did not like about this book but it succeeds in its mission and is well worth reading.
All my cumulative studies convince me beyond doubt that our demented globalists and their organizations have knowingly induced today's global Mass Formation Psychosis. (Further evidence of this can be seen almost every time Bill Gates opens his mouth. He clearly understands and has studied Nudge Theory and other psyop techniques.) I also know for my own purposes that they have been working on this project for many many decades. For those who are interested specifically in this, I recommend reading Daniel Estulin, Patrick M. Wood, G. Edward Griffin, and Carroll Quigley, among others. Laura Dodsworth definitely spilled many of the beans with her exceptional book, 'A State of Fear' in 2021, but it is just the beginning. Arendt's, 'The Origins of Totalitarianism' provides an important backbone for making sense of much of it. Hope it helps.
Catherine Austin Fitts seems to have a good handle on things, imo.
I like Fitts for her economic experience and insights. But rolled my eyes when she recently said the plan is to control us from space. So I don’t buy everything those in our mass are thinking and saying.
No one gets it right all the time.
As an aside, even the elite / government controlled MSM propaganda machine is still useful to me in that I know to investigate both the opposite of what they say, and the things they downplay or don’t cover at all. Obviously, having an extensive range of independent and alternative media sources and experts to go to is essential and I certainly spend a lot more time there than with the corrupt MSM. However, even there, it is not hard to find those with ulterior motives who are trying to manipulate. One has to make judgment calls on such things for one's self. My impression is that Fitts is highly intelligent, competent, and genuine. But, I trust no one unconditionally, nor do I underwrite everything any one person says, no matter how impressive they seem.
Questioning and triangulating everything of importance with other sources and data points is always the way to go. Fitts generally impresses me, not least because she often seems ahead of the game and goes deeper than most in some areas. Everyone is entitled to speculate. In terms of asserting facts, I have yet to find her to have been wildly wrong on something important, but I could be mistaken and anyone can be wrong sometimes. I’m not familiar with the space comment you reference, but I have an extensive tech background. If Fitts was talking about using satellite networks to aid the track and trace + Central Bank Digital Currency prisons that are being built up around us, that wouldn’t sound far-fetched to me at all.
Interesting! Do you recall what interview that was? I'd like to listen to it. Cheers!
She does, indeed.
Yes, remember Cabbage Patch Dolls?
Yes, I do. Now we have Pokémon Go.
Matthias touches on this (you need to read the book!) in that the reaction to the mass formation can become its own mass formation, especially if people go down too many single-focussed conspiracy theory rabbit holes. The antidote (if I recall correctly) was to keep listening to and talking to a broad range of people. (Including people you disagree with; I'm rather bad at that because I hate conflict.)
I also just finished watching 'Nudging, what is it? | Mind Health Connection Room’ from the World Council for Health where the dangers of the freedom side dwelling in too much fear messaging is raised. So that could absolutely get a lot of people moving in a destructive direction.
" The antidote (if I recall correctly) was to keep listening to and talking to a broad range of people."
Easier said than done; most likely you'd be talking to a person that is affected by the MF; should you doubt yourself then? And, in the unlikely event that you will find a person from the "club", you will see your ideas reflected... this is a very polarizing issue so what is the conclusion :P?
In the end, you can use VAERS as an indicator - this indicates which side of the population is in MF and which one is not.
I am at this point, having heard both Malone and Desmet discuss this on several occasions, beginning to conclude after revisiting what happened that those who say this did not arise spontaneously from the masses are correct in this case. Perhaps mass hypnosis can happen, not arguing that, but in the case of a bio weapon attack, it did not happen that way. Society was at full tilt, people were working, going to the gym going out to eat, we ran out of TP because manufacturing was geared toward that, then suddenly the most massive preplanned globally coordinated propaganda “we’re all in this (terrible thing) together” campaign rolled out across the globe by the perpetrators (not the general populace), stunning and forcing that highly active and robust population into isolation, preventing mass gathering and real communication. This was created by the perpetrators after years of germophobia priming starting with HIV, H1N1, Mers, Sars, West Nile, Ebola, etc. everyone carry hand-sanitizer. This didn’t arrive via the population, this arrived via the “health care” system + government + social media + msm.
Well, if we are truly Spirit, and yet identify as solely human, are we not in a mass delusion at least? I think this is important, is the difference between freedom and slavery, choosing love and choosing control(fear), and one way we can check whether we are free or not is simply to gauge our level of reactivity regarding those with opposing views, and heck, even those running this global kill machine. We can hold boundaries without attributing worthlessness, fundamental wrongness, evil to those who are prosecuting dark systems of control and slavery. Because, as soon as we lose our heart to any systemic response we lose our humanity, which paradoxically, as every 12 stepper knows, can only be retained with true and constant commitment to our deeper spiritual nature and to God, which and who cannot possibly be defined by us.
My friend and I have been discussing along similar lines. 😉🙏🏼
I accept this argument. And think the cube labelled The Real in your diagram might be where Truth lies. We are possibly all being distracted from finding out what this is. As humans, we get bogged down a lot.
Very good question - are we in our own mass formation? Desmet warns against opposing the safe and effectives with our own mass and given that some of the sovereignty lovers believe viruses don't exist and other differences of opinion that break out in our channels I don't think we are. Yet!
Trevor Price nephew of Nancy Paradise?
We could be in a parallel mass formation and fear could be the thing driving it…
nice
We aren't massive enough to constitute a mass formation of our own! Not to mention the fact that there are nuanced dissenting voices within our cohort.